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I think is is really interestign that zeus hid the child in his side. I though gods were so superior that they wouldn't do things like that. I also didn't realize how often gods fall in love- and how when it comes to that they are simalar to humans. Same emotions kind of thing. Its interesting.
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I think that it is very interesting how gods and goddesses in Greek mythology have many imperfections. They can be powerful but at the same time deceitful and jealous, much like humans. An example of this can be found on page 56 when Hera chooses to curse an innocent women with death because Zeus fell in love with her. Many other religions claim their god/gods to be pure and faultless.
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While I was reading tonight's section I noticed a connection between our writing assignment and how Dionysus was portrayed. In the book it speaks to the fact that Dionysus was a contradictory god giving men happiness, power, and a false sense of immortality one minute and then causing people to act like savage beasts the next minute. This is similar to our writing assignment because we are supposed to summarize are collection with a contradictory statement. I found it interesting that this ironic summary would show up in both places.
ReplyDeleteI loved how Dionysus, the god of wine, was actually very much a personification of the drink for which he is named. He is described as "kind and beneficent" to men, but was also cruel and caused them to go mad, and was not a particularly happy person himself. I also find it quite interesting that people already had a sense that too much alcohol was not safe. In a way, Dionysus is an ancient poster-child for responsible drinking.
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ReplyDelete"He warned him that he could not keep him in prison,'for God will set me free'.
'God?'
'He is here and sees my suffering'"
Instead of saying Zeus he says God, capitalized, then he talks about suffering (the cross). Also, similar to the story of Virgin
Mary, Ariadne was mortal. This shows that all religions, or most, share many of the same roots.
I think it is interesting how the followers of Dionysus originally became crazily drunk with wine to worship him. I honestly believe that they probaly enjoyed worshipping him the most! However I did find it interesting as to how some of the later worshipers never got drunk at all. Maybe they were realising the double edged sword that wine and the wine god was.
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I also find it interesting that the men and women were going crazy over Dionysus, god of wine. Women especially, “They rushed through woods and over mountains uttering sharp cries…nothing could stop them.” I don’t know if you could classify this as sexism, but I find it compulsive that the women were the ones going gaga over the wine. It might just be saying though that people in general always loved wine.
ReplyDeleteI loved the story in which one of the Gods disguised himself as a young rich boy and then pirates captured him. After that, the pirates could not tie him up and later on they found out that he was a God, so they jumped overboard and got turned into dolphins. The only pirate that did not get turned into a dolphin was one who told the captain to let the God go free, but the captain mocked him. I enjoyed this story because it shows that if you do harm to someone or something, than nothing good will come to you, but if you do something good than you will be rewarded.
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ReplyDeleteI'm with Miranda on enjoying the fact that doing something crucial to someone will get you nowhere and nothing. How Dionysus fell in love and died was interesting to me, because it certainly reminds me of other stories that are not about gods. To read that in a god story is not common. He is a worshipped God, and people would do whatever to worship him. Woman in particular would be go crazy over the wine, but that is common because wine was loved by everybody,
ReplyDeleteEven though I am not a big fan of books that are based on this section of the reading, I really think that it was interesting when Dionysus, after saving the life of Theseus, later fell in love with her and soon came to marrying her. Also when she had past away Dionysus put the crown that he had given her up into the stars. I really think that this was a change in topic when they all of a sudden talk about love.
ReplyDeleteMiranda took mine... I love old folk stories like that in which it explains how something was made. And I totally agree with Audrey... like I have been saying this past week was that the gods where not so much different from humans and that is why I love greek mythology because the gods were so relatable.
ReplyDeleteThe reason why I enjoy reading Greek Mythology so much is because it not only consists of fascinating stories about extraordinary gods, but it also provides reasonable conclusions as to why we walk this planet and how we came to be (Like the purpose of most religions). A good example comes from when Dionysus turned the kidnapping pirates into dolphins, those dolphins used to be humans; This could be the reasoning behind why dolphins are the most "human like" of marine animals.
ReplyDeleteAlso to mention the term "Panic" came from the mythological creature, Pan, when he loses his patience
I thought it was very profound that Dionysus, who was such and gay and merry god, was in the end a tragic god.To me this is a way of saying that if you drink and party when you are younger, it may be fun while it lasts, but in the end, you are just a drunk who is all-in-all a sad character. I also thought that the fact that Pentheus was Dionysus's cousin. I'm not really sure why the tale goes that way, but I'm sure there is a reason why they were closely related.
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ReplyDeletei also noticed that each of the gods have parts of their personalities make them imperfect, just like humans. there were also some other things that were like human nature that the gods were doing. i think its funny to read about gods that were so similar to the people, but the people treated them like they were so magical and important.
ReplyDeleteWhat I found interesting in this reading was Dionysus’s strong resemblance to humans and why I think this made him, among the other gods’ humanity’s best friend. Dionysus represents beauty (“they saw a beautiful youth. His rich dark hair flowed down over a purple cloak that covered his strong shoulders”, pg. 57), compassion (“had compassion upon her. He rescued her and in the end loved her.”, pg. 58) and gentleness. But he also “could be cruel and drive men to frightful deeds” (pg. 58).
ReplyDeleteI think that a majoring factor to Dionysus being so connected to humanity was his deep connection to earth itself. Dionysus and his worshippers “went to the wilderness to worship, to the wildest mountains, the deepest forests”, pg. 58. But also among the peaceful way of living in which Dionysus inspired his worshippers to follow was a cruel and violent spark in which he enlightened in his worshippers, “often he made them mad”, pg. 58. Woman frenzied with wine “rushed through woods and over mountains uttering sharp cries, waving pine-cone-tipped wands, swept away in a fierce ecstasy. Nothing could stop them. They would tear to pieces the wild creatures they met and devour the bloody shreds of flesh”, pg. 58. “There was much that was lovely, good, and freeing in this worship under the open sky and the ecstasy of joy brought in the wild beauty of the world”, pg 58, just as there is the gorgeous and awesome freedom, goodness and beauty of humanity, “And yet always present, too, was the horrible bloody feast.”, pg. 59, just as the inescapable and irrevocable savageness, rage and brutality is always present in humanity.
Dionysus’s strange and juxtaposing personality is explained solely by him being the God of Wine. “Wine is bad as well as good”, pg. 61, it warms the soul and inspires careless joy but it also makes you drunk, and in a drunken state people often commit atrocious acts. Dionysus was the God of the Vine, making him be the power behind the vile acts he controlled in people.
He also was one of the few gods’ who truly knew grief and long time suffering and to understand humanity you must understand grief and suffering. “He was the vine, which is always pruned as nothing else that bears fruit, every branch cut away, only the bare stock left”, pg. 63.
Lastly in Dionysus dying in the winter and then coming back to life, he represented the assurance that death does not end at all, “that the soul lives on forever after the body dies”, pg.64, which to all humans is a seductive and inevitable thought and hope.
I also found it interesting how Dionysus was the only main god with a human as a parent.
ReplyDeleteI also found it interesting how literal in which the Gods were connected to their power (for example Dionysus feeling the pain as the vines are stripped away in the winter).
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I thought that it was interesting that Dionysus' followers drank wine and became intoxicated to worship him. Especially women followers of Dionysus, who were titled "maenads". What is interesting this story is people could make arguments that people becoming drunk would further themselves from worshiping their gods, but in the case of the Greeks, it's not. Also, I thought that Dionysus turning the pirates into dolphins was very interesting, due to the fact that Dionysus seemed like a very merry god who wouldn't punish for any reason, but in reality, he used his power to release his temper on the kidnapping pirates. I have read.
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